Tuesday, June 19, 2012

Let's talk about Sarah & Sarah & S.A. and A.S...

AUUUUUGHGHGH! Too many Johns and Sarahs and S. A.'s and A.S.S.'s!


Our original Sarah A. (maybe A.L.) was the second daughter and third child of Blakely A. and Elizabeth Helton Eddins/Edins/Edens/Edings. She was born between 1851 and 1853, probably in either Tallapoosa or Bibb County, AL. In 1871 she married John L. Honeycutt/Hunnicutt in Shelby County.


At the same time there seems to have been ANOTHER Sarah A. who married a DIFFERENT John Honeycutt. Sarah A. Mitchell married John T. Honeycutt, as elucidated by their son George's death information here:


https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/JDB1-KRC


Gadzooks!


And another John L. Hunnicutt who married an A. S.  or S. A. A. Strong. 


Ack!!!!


To confuse the issue, there is at least one ADDITIONAL John Honeycutt who married Elizabeth and lived in Shelby County in 1850 and 1860 but died by 1873, leaving a will. His children were William, Louisa, Zachary Taylor, Mary, J.D., and George D. Honeycutt, according to the probate records in Shelby County.


ZWOUNDS!!!


Let's look at the best candidate for the John L. who married Sarah A. Eddins.


In the 1850 US Census for AL, Thomas Honeycut was living in Autauga County with first wife Elizabeth Moore and children. On November 6, 1851 he married Cynthia Lathem in Shelby County. In the 1860 US Census for AL,  T.R. Honeycutt is living in ES Cahaba River with Cynthia, his older children, and Jerry, aged 8, born about 1852. This last son is undoubtedly our John L., because:


In the 1870 US Census for AL, John L. Honeycutt, 19,  is living in Beat 6 with his parents Thos R. and Cintha Honeycutt. Thomas is a grocer, Cintha keeps house, John L. is a teamster. All born AL.




The Shelby County, AL, Genealogy website is littered with entries for Thomas R. and John L. Honeycutt. Mostly sketchy. For example,


  • In 1866 John is cited for "affray."

  • In 1870 Thomas is cited for keeping "open house on Sunday"--presumably keeping the hotel bar open when it was supposed to be closed. Oops. 

  • In 1870 John L is cited for gaming; guarantee from T.R. and J. L. Honeycutt and J. M. Lathem (an uncle, cousin, or brother-in-law) that J.L. will show up.

  • In 1871 John L. is cited for assault and battery on Thomas Adams

  • In 1871 Thomas R. is cited for selling liquor on Sunday




http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~alshelby/61DrawerA.html


And that's just ONE page of ONE set of files.




Wotta family!


Continuing on with our most likely candidates:


In the 1880 US Census for AL, Cynthia Hunnicutt is a widowed hotel keeper in Randolph, Bibb County. Born AL, parents born AL. Also in the household are Johns, 27, Sallie, 26, Thomas, 7, Willie, 6, John, 4, and Hugh, 8 months. No girls. Neighbors: Doughty, Mahan, Smitherman, Sims, Latham, Garner.


http://search.ancestry.com/iexec?htx=View&r=an&dbid=6742&iid=4239763-00043&fn=Cynthia&ln=Hunnicutt&st=d&ssrc=&pid=5708693


After that, the trail for this family goes cold. Despite considerable work, I've been unable to find any more trace of them. 


If I find anything more, I'll post it here. You can stop reading now.


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Or not. 


Just to differentiate the families, I am including my findings on the other J & S & A families we have noted. For example:


John and Sarah Honeycutt are in Jefferson County in 1880. John is 29, a farmer, born AL, parents born AL. Sarah is 29, housekeeping, born AL, parents born AL. Also in the household are James T, 10, John J., 7, George W., 6, Willie S., 4, E. Z., 2, and Emma E., 1. Marion Hutchinson, hired help, is also there.


http://search.ancestry.com/iexec?htx=View&r=an&dbid=6742&iid=4239777-00711&fn=John+L.&ln=Honeycutt&st=d&ssrc=&pid=7526895


The two families are different and separate: two separate entries, two separate towns, different children, and "our" S & L have no girls. So the second J & S are John and Sarah Mitchell Honeycutt.


The 1900 US Census for AL shows John and Sarah Mitchell Honeycutt in Jefferson County. John L. is 49, born July 1850, farmer, born AL, parents born AL. Sarah A. is 50, born August 1849, married 30 years, 9 births, 7 still living, parents born AL. Also in the household: George M., 25, William, 24, Emma E., 20, and Ennus B., 19.


http://search.ancestry.com/Browse/view.aspx?dbid=7602&path=Alabama.Jefferson.Precinct+40.109.9&sid=&gskw=Emma+E+Honeycutt


This is the OTHER John and Sarah Honeycutt. You can tell from the children's names.


In the 1910 US Census for AL, John Q. Hunnicutt is living in Jeffferson County. He is 59, married one time for 40 years, born AL, parents born AL. Also in the household are Sarah, 60, born AL, parents born AL, nine children, seven living; and son William, 33.



The 1920 US Census for AL shows Sarah A. Honeycutt in Jefferson County. She is 69, widowed, born AL, parents born AL. Also in the household are William Honeycutt, 45, born AL, both parents born AL.

http://search.ancestry.com/iexec?htx=View&r=an&dbid=6061&iid=4294317-00558&fn=Sarah&ln=Honeycutt&st=r&ssrc=&pid=106036573

The Alabama Deaths Index at Ancestry.com lists her death date as February 1925 in Jefferson County.

http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=aldeath&h=413433&indiv=try&o_cvc=Image:OtherRecord



EGAD!


Here is a THIRD John Honeycutt/Hunnicutt with a wife names A. S. or S.A. 


In 1882 John L. Hunnicutt married Alice A. Strong in Tuscaloosa County. Marriage record here:


https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FQ91-QZS


In the 1900 US Census for TX, J. L. Hunnicutt is living in Belton, TX. He is 49, born Sept. 1850, a bookkeeper, parents born GA and AL. Also in the household are S. A. A, his wife, 41, born 1858 in AL, parents born AL, married 18 years, 5 children and 5 living: son R.T., daughter G. J., son J. L., Jr., all born AL; and daughters Lizzie and Emily, born TX.


They show up again in 1910, this time in AL:


In the 1910 US Census for AL, John Hunnicutt is living in Tuscaloosa County. He is 59, born AL, parents born AL, a bookkeeper, married once for 28 years. Also in the household is Alice S, 52, born AL, parents born AL, Lizzie, 22, born TX, and Emily, 14, born TX. 


http://search.ancestry.com/iexec?htx=View&r=an&dbid=7884&iid=31111_4327217-00225&fn=John+L&ln=Honeyicutt&st=d&ssrc=&pid=246508 


They're here Tuscaloosa in 1920:


http://search.ancestry.com/iexec?htx=View&r=an&dbid=6061&iid=4294341-00756&fn=John+L&ln=Hunnicut&st=d&ssrc=&pid=1681622


And here in 1930:


http://search.ancestry.com/iexec?htx=View&r=an&dbid=6224&iid=4532033_00783&fn=J+L&ln=Hunnicutt&st=d&ssrc=&pid=118253525


This is the guy who died in1932.


This material is important only in eliminating people who are not the John & Sarah we want. Hence the small type. Now you can REALLY stop reading! 



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